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Title: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 24, 2011, 10:15:37 AM
wanna,

as mentioned, platycerium coronarium in singapore.
it can be seen easily on some of the road.
i think that most of them are planted by the national park of singapore except a few that were naturally grow in some of the forrest.

p. coronarium also known as crown staghorn due to the shape of the shield fronds.
& if you pay attention, even those that i have seen at the "forrest", the fertile fronds are narrow & there isnt any "hair" on the shield & fertile fronds.

this one is growing outside my friend house. take a look at the left, the shield fronds are turning brown, that is because it is facing hot afternoon sun.

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/DSC_6364.jpg)


Platycerium Ridleyi was discovered by Sir Henry Nicholas Ridley in Singapore at bukit timah forrest. He was the botanist & director of Singapore botanic garden.

We used to have many P. ridleyi in Singapore till lots of trees were chopped off & the forrest were used to build public apartments & houses.

Due to its fertile fronds which are erect like the deer's antler, it is commonly know as deer horn.

Few years back, I still see some of them in Singapore. Will get back to you when i see them as i am not too sure if they are still there or have turn into compost completely & extinct completely in Singapore......... what a shame. :(

Platycerium willinkii, relative of p. bifurcatum, I believe that they are mounted on the trees by the national park of Singapore. Will post here when I go take the shots.


Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM
thanks for your photo!! it is very huge clump. does your friend plant it?  00-_
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 24, 2011, 10:29:52 AM
Wanna.... A few more pics of platys grown on trees outside my friend's house too
:) :)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/f9bb9c4a.jpg)


(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/81f03610.jpg)

If you get the chance to visit Singapore, I will drive you
All over the island to see them and visit the nurseries too.

:) :)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 24, 2011, 10:33:27 AM
oh really??? it is amazing. they are P. grande and P. coronarium. who did plant them?
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: samuelphan on February 24, 2011, 10:34:41 AM
This one not planted by Singapore National Park  1/31

Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 24, 2011, 10:55:09 AM
oh really??? it is amazing. they are P. grande and P. coronarium. who did plant them?
K. Wanna....these were planted by our good old friend, Sandy (Talos in GCS forum) - do you know him?  I have asked him to visit you with us many times but he is always so busy that he cannot join us.  Another old timer with platy and very generous to friends - he has given me a few species that I did not have without me even asking! 8)

You should see the rest of his place - I am sure you will love it! 1/14
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: samuelphan on February 24, 2011, 11:02:05 AM
When you visit Sandy's place be sure to visit mine too. Our houses are just stone throw away from each other. I always enjoy occasional stroll into his "jungle" and immerse myself into the nature feel. Got to admit that sometimes hands are itching to pluck a plant or too.  m179

As doc mentioned, Sandy is indeed very generous. Most of my platys from Sandy through barter trades.

oh really??? it is amazing. they are P. grande and P. coronarium. who did plant them?
K. Wanna....these were planted by our good old friend, Sandy (Talos in GCS forum) - do you know him?  I have asked him to visit you with us many times but he is always so busy that he cannot join us.  Another old timer with platy and very generous to friends - he has given me a few species that I did not have without me even asking! 8)

You should see the rest of his place - I am sure you will love it! 1/14
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 24, 2011, 11:02:36 AM
I remember him, Ichsu. he showed his sexy pack abs in scg forum  /014 /014
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 24, 2011, 11:05:19 AM
I remember him, Ichsu. he showed his sexy pack abs in scg forum  /014 /014
Hahaha.....that's the guy!
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 24, 2011, 03:26:12 PM
thanks for your photo!! it is very huge clump. does your friend plant it?  00-_

yes. she grow it many many yrs ago.
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 24, 2011, 03:27:30 PM
I remember him, Ichsu. he showed his sexy pack abs in scg forum  /014 /014

he used to buy them from local nurseries.....
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 24, 2011, 07:23:38 PM
I remember him, Ichsu. he showed his sexy pack abs in scg forum  /014 /014

he used to buy them from local nurseries.....

Haha...if can buy those abs in nurseries, I want to buy some too! :)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 24, 2011, 07:24:14 PM
Here is another tree with some young platys.....

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5472997257_1dfebafd34_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/30170308@N07/5472997257/)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 24, 2011, 07:36:22 PM
I remember him, Ichsu. he showed his sexy pack abs in scg forum  /014 /014

he used to buy them from local nurseries.....

Haha...if can buy those abs in nurseries, I want to buy some too! :)

Haha....when you find out I also want to buy abs like Sandy!!
:) :)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 24, 2011, 10:11:19 PM
ohhhh sexy abs can buy in Singapore. m204 m204 m204 amazing!! m204 m204
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: platyceriumferns on February 25, 2011, 10:57:44 AM
Are these the P. rildleyi you are looking for?????  1/8
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 25, 2011, 11:10:35 AM
Are these the P. rildleyi you are looking for?????  1/8

where is the photo was taken?
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 25, 2011, 02:25:12 PM
Are these the P. rildleyi you are looking for?????  1/8

i hope not........ /078
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 25, 2011, 02:51:45 PM
I think this pic is not from Singapore; am I right, Chad?  I can see a long, high ridge in the background - I have not seen a vista like this here, and there should not be ridge that high and big here.....
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 25, 2011, 02:55:36 PM
 m177 m177 m177
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 25, 2011, 03:00:13 PM
I think this pic is not from Singapore; am I right, Chad?  I can see a long, high ridge in the background - I have not seen a vista like this here, and there should not be ridge that high and big here.....

More likely in West Malaysia around Endau Rompin reserve!!
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 25, 2011, 04:07:55 PM
I think this pic is not from Singapore; am I right, Chad?  I can see a long, high ridge in the background - I have not seen a vista like this here, and there should not be ridge that high and big here.....

i agree with that.
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 25, 2011, 05:50:14 PM
I think this pic is not from Singapore; am I right, Chad?  I can see a long, high ridge in the background - I have not seen a vista like this here, and there should not be ridge that high and big here.....

More likely in West Malaysia around Endau Rompin reserve!!

Reminds me of some that I saw in Panti Forest Reserve in Johore.  Also saw a similar scene with a fallen tree and quite a few ridleyii on the branches.  In nature, they occur very high up the tree branches where is is brighter and more airy.....once the tree falls, they cannot survive at the lower levels for long.... m204
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 25, 2011, 09:03:13 PM
really sad story for P. redleyi  m169 m169
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 25, 2011, 09:13:23 PM
really sad story for P. redleyi  m169 m169
Ya....felt like prying off the branches and bringing home to try to save some .....but they were already quite brown and dying, BIG and HEAVY, and too many ants!!!! m048
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 25, 2011, 09:44:01 PM
too big plant is hard to grow when it is moved to a new place. I notice when I bought very big wild P. redleyi, finally it died.
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 25, 2011, 10:01:40 PM
too big plant is hard to grow when it is moved to a new place. I notice when I bought very big wild P. redleyi, finally it died.

Wanna, I also bought a big one when I started keeping platy.....
Never die but no grow shield fronds, only have fertile fronds.
I will take a pic of it tomorrow!!
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 25, 2011, 10:11:09 PM
Yes...large platys are not easy to adapt to transplantation.  I usually like to buy them small as they are more adaptable and easier to transport....plus it is rewarding to see them grow and flourish in your care! 1*5

K. Wanna...want to check something about ridleyii that a platy collector once told me:  He said that he was told that P Ridleyii have a definite lifespan - that they can grow well and then one day just decide to die....I have seen this happen many times myself and I think it may be true; Have had some ridleyii in the past that grow really well and beautifully, and then for no apparent reason just stop growing and dry up! m204

Any truth in this???  ???
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 25, 2011, 10:46:42 PM
Ichsu, I heard some growers said P. redleyi's lifespan around 50-60 years. but for my P. redleyi I have are still young. m204 the cause to make them died cause worm ate their bud or fungi killed them.
you ever notice, how many shield fronds  do P. redleyi produce a year?
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 25, 2011, 10:55:13 PM
Ichsu, I heard some growers said P. redleyi's lifespan around 50-60 years. but for my P. redleyi I have are still young. m204 the cause to make them died cause worm ate their bud or fungi killed them.
you ever notice, how many shield fronds  do P. redleyi produce a year?

I think I remember it was mentioned 5-10 yrs only....anyway, I think in the wild maybe 50-60 yrs is true, but perhaps in captivity it is less?  I think it is possibly very sensitive to changes in the environment - like when changing position, or falling down!  I have almost given up on them.....but I want to try the ones you have - I like the wide spread of the fronds of the Thai species - nicer than the Malaysia/Sing one.....
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 25, 2011, 11:09:48 PM
oh I just knew that they have some difference in fronds, Thai and Malay.
in May I will take you to my friend's nursery who cultivates P. redleyi from spores. you will be excited as Roy. Roy can't sleep now, hehehe  m204 m204 m204
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on February 25, 2011, 11:15:48 PM
oh I just knew that they have some difference in fronds, Thai and Malay.
in May I will take you to my friend's nursery who cultivates P. redleyi from spores. you will be excited as Roy. Roy can't sleep now, hehehe  m204 m204 m204

Too early to sleep lah.....we don't need baby face  1/34 Now discussing where to go eat  :)

I think I have seen some pictures of that nursery - lots and lots of ridleyii!  I will definitely enjoy it 8)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 26, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
found this old photo of p. coronarium. not too how big it has grow since......

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/Picture060.jpg)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 26, 2011, 10:36:01 AM
We sent 'pest' to take photographs of platyceriums around Singapore.
These are some that he found. Some are natural near our Singapore nature reserve areas....


This Coronarium is very high in the tree...at least 60-80 feet up

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/79a3cecd.jpg)

This one is no so high...

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/c3df0b4c.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/76f62e00.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/21c80e90.jpg)

Enjoy... Alot more to show.

:) :)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Kookie on February 26, 2011, 10:43:37 AM
p'roy, climb up to get nice shot, ha ha!
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 26, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
oh I just knew that they have some difference in fronds, Thai and Malay.
in May I will take you to my friend's nursery who cultivates P. redleyi from spores. you will be excited as Roy. Roy can't sleep now, hehehe  m204 m204 m204

Wanna.... Yes I was excited and can't sleep.... But it was not because of P. ridleyii.
:) :)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 26, 2011, 11:28:10 AM
Thank you "Pest"  1/35 1/35  /0135 /0135
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 26, 2011, 11:29:55 AM
oh I just knew that they have some difference in fronds, Thai and Malay.
in May I will take you to my friend's nursery who cultivates P. redleyi from spores. you will be excited as Roy. Roy can't sleep now, hehehe  m204 m204 m204

Wanna.... Yes I was excited and can't sleep.... But it was not because of P. ridleyii.
:) :)

I know la because of Durian  /027 /027
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 26, 2011, 01:38:02 PM
oh I just knew that they have some difference in fronds, Thai and Malay.
in May I will take you to my friend's nursery who cultivates P. redleyi from spores. you will be excited as Roy. Roy can't sleep now, hehehe  m204 m204 m204

Wanna.... Yes I was excited and can't sleep.... But it was not because of P. ridleyii.
:) :)

I know la because of Durian  /027 /027

Yes, I am very fond of Durians jung.  em170
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 26, 2011, 04:44:50 PM
We sent 'pest' to take photographs of platyceriums around Singapore.
These are some that he found. Some are natural near our Singapore nature reserve areas....


This Coronarium is very high in the tree...at least 60-80 feet up

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/79a3cecd.jpg)

This one is no so high...

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/c3df0b4c.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/76f62e00.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/21c80e90.jpg)

Enjoy... Alot more to show.

:) :)

actually p. coronarium are can also be seen on the road. you can see them at commonwealth, east coast etc. thanks to national park of singapore that grow them.

btw roy, may be you want to get your friend a new camera as a present since he is helping you to take the photos.
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: matthew_platy on February 26, 2011, 04:48:17 PM
wanna,

these are from national park of singapore. these p. willinckii are from indonesia.

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/L1000503.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/L1000497.jpg)

& following are from one of the nurseries in singapore

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/L1000509.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/L1000510.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/L1000513.jpg)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j40/pino_photo/platycerium/L1000515.jpg)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 26, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
they are so nice!! Matt. thanks a lot for photos.  m204
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on February 27, 2011, 10:36:50 AM
 


btw roy, may be you want to get your friend a new camera as a present since he is helping you to take the photos.

Matt, thanks for the suggestion. He is in this forum too...and his
Nick is Pest as you can see from my introduction earlier.

Msg to Pest, your lousy camera cannot make it. Please get a better and more
Expensive camera. You want me to buy for you? Lousy pictures should not
Be posted here!   em199

Btw Matt, you should listen to your friend's advice too!
:)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on February 27, 2011, 08:56:28 PM
The quality of posted photos are less important than the kindness that Pest pass to us. I like Pest'photos.  8)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on March 02, 2011, 11:29:55 PM
The quality of posted photos are less important than the kindness that Pest pass to us. I like Pest'photos.  8)

Continuing from where we left the discussion.
Please excuse poor camera of Pest's Galaxy-S
(should get iPhone. Haha)......

P. Coronariums along trees in highways. All planted by National Parks!!!
I think the Director of Singapore National Park was a platy lover back then!!!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/2cf86528.jpg)

Next few pics are taken fro Govt built public housing estates....also planted
By National Parks! In Clementi town center!

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/ff915f06.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/fdee2a3d.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/9a049b0f.jpg)

(http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f289/lucasrock/5284fd9c.jpg)


Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on March 03, 2011, 09:00:45 PM
Thanks Roy, did Pest send you the photos? m168 m168
I like the Director of Singapore National Park jung. /031 in Thailand no have Platy on trees in public place like this.
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on March 03, 2011, 09:33:15 PM
Thanks Roy, did Pest send you the photos? m168 m168
I like the Director of Singapore National Park jung. /031 in Thailand no have Platy on trees in public place like this.

Haha...Well, Jesda stays a few doors away from the Thai PM Abhisit Vejjajiva's home in Bangkok.
Maybe, I will ask Jesda to walk over and tell him. kekeke
 m126 m126
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on March 03, 2011, 10:21:08 PM
hmm..or I move to stay in Singapore?? /046 /046
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: lchsu on March 04, 2011, 08:56:25 AM
hmm..or I move to stay in Singapore?? /046 /046
K. Wanna...you're most welcome to move to Singapore!  We need more pretty ladies who know their ferns! :)
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: samuelphan on March 04, 2011, 09:08:10 AM
Really?!!  ;D

I am sure the fern community here in Singapore look forward to the day you move over
 /0135

Then maybe can join us for supper ...  em425

hmm..or I move to stay in Singapore?? /046 /046
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on March 04, 2011, 09:26:20 AM
hmm..or I move to stay in Singapore?? /046 /046

Wanna...this is great!! We will certainly welcome you to stay here!!
And it is not far too.... Can easily go back to tend to your
Nursery!! Maybe 2 weeks in Singapore and 2 weeks in Chanthaburi. Etc!!
Good idea?
 em425 em170
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on March 04, 2011, 07:31:44 PM
hahaha thank you so much for your warm welcome.  m204 m204 I should start from travelling there first. who will be my tour guide?? em219
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: Lucasrock on March 04, 2011, 09:27:43 PM
hahaha thank you so much for your warm welcome.  m204 m204 I should start from travelling there first. who will be my tour guide?? em219

Wanna, of course I will be your tour guide!!!!  em425 em170
Title: Re: platycerium in singapore
Post by: wanna on March 05, 2011, 09:29:19 PM
Roy, thank you so much.  m111 m111